By Viktar Korbut
How did the Poles learn about Pinsk Gentry?
They attended our ‘Panorama’ Festival and saw the performance staged by our Kupala Theatre, much admiring the directorship and actors. ‘Pinsk Gentry’ can be read in just 22 minutes but the performance lasts an hour and 40 minutes. Our Polish colleagues were surprised at how this could be possible.
Who proposed the idea of a Belarusian-Polish theatrical project?
A year ago, our chief director, Nikolay Pinigin, approached me, saying, “Let’s go to Warsaw!” The Poles wanted Nikolay to stage ‘Pinsk Gentry’ for them. However, I dared not agree immediately. I don’t speak Polish, though I understand the language. I asked Nikolay to let me think it over for the night and I soon realised that I don’t take enough chances. Moreover, it occurred to me that I’ve known him for 25 years; thus ended my quiet life!
Did you start learning the text by rote?
I was given the script and spent three months learning it. Igor Skripko, who heads our theatre’s literary section, advised me, being an expert in the Polish language. Even in Belarusian, it’s difficult to pronounce the tongue twisters as they originally sounded. The situation is even worse in a foreign language. However, it’s important. The role of Kryuchkov presupposes a virtuoso treatment of words.
To what degree is the Rampa Theatre known in Poland?
Warsaw alone has 20 theatres — including a national theatre, which aims to appeal to the public, like our Kupala Theatre. Rampa has its own loyal audience, highly professional actors and two halls, which play to full houses, just 15 minutes from the centre of the city.
What do people in Warsaw say about you?
I’ve seen posters stating that ‘the most outstanding Belarusian director — Pinigin’ has come to Poland. My family name is also mentioned, alongside praise…
Why are you so modest?
I wish to appear ordinary. Some interviews with actors are irritating as the subject appears so egotistical. I prefer modesty. Mark Bernes once sang: ‘The sun would not have risen in the morning if I were not alive’.
Should actors remain silent?
Why silent? It’s better to speak on stage though, knowing your script by heart. Additionally, an actor can remain silent; I’ve performed in such stagings.
However, readers need society columns…
This is just gossip: lies and falsities — a bright cover, with rot inside. Speech sets us apart from animals but we also have the power of reflection. We should consider our words, since we are responsible for each one.
It seems to me that your character of Kryuchkov says whatever he wishes without thought for the consequences…
True. He might tell Pinsk’s gentry that it’s March 69th and no one would contradict him! However, Kryuchkov has a particular goal: to dumbfound and bewilder.
Do you associate yourself with Kryuchkov?
This would be terrible!
What do you feel when playing him?
Why? Kryuchkov is a scoundrel...
Really? He’s a talented man. Moreover, he’s a great professional, as people bring him bribes of their own free will. He never rods anyone, although he promises to.
However, he hints that problems can be resolved peacefully…
In his soul, he is a true artist, able to manipulate people. He can change his intonation and tone, even crying when necessary. Only talented people can behave that way. Of course, I’m being ironic. An old Polish lady once told me after the show that Kryuchkov resembled her grandfather, who was a bureaucrat and assessor.
Have you found a common language with your Polish colleagues?
I won’t say I’m on such terms with all of Warsaw but I do have warm relations with those from the Rampa Theatre. During rehearsals, my colleagues give me cues on how to pronounce words. At weekends, they treat me to dinner, bringing tasty dishes from home and inviting me to their summer cottages. They’re surprised to see a foreign actor come to their country knowing a Polish script yet not knowing Polish. We’d also be surprised to see a Polish actor in Minsk speaking Belarusian fluently on stage. We’d be grateful for this though. We worked well in Warsaw, with ‘Pinsk Gentry’ selling out quickly. Many Warsaw actors wanted to see the show, as it intrigued them greatly.
How often do you plan to visit Warsaw?
The repertoire is set for a year, until December. Polish colleagues love our theatre and, I’d say, are fond of Belarus.
Are you tired of spending so much time on trains?
Life should never be annoying. I’ve been performing on my native stage for 30 years. The theatre is currently being revamped and we all await the reopening. Of course, everyone seeks a calm life but it’s good to shake things up a little. Sometimes, after a Minsk show, I’d take a train to Warsaw — to perform in two or three performances of ‘Pinsk Gentry’, returning to Minsk for a rehearsal the following morning.
The MT reference:
Pinsk Gentry is a comedy, laughing at the gentry’s pride and at the cunning of civil servants. It was written by Wincenty Dunin-Marcinkiewicz 150 years ago. Few Poles know of him, though he wrote in Belarusian and Polish. Meanwhile, all self-respecting Poles love composer Stanislaw Moniuszko and consider him to be Poland’s national hero. For them, Moniuszko is as significant as Chopin. He was a friend of Dunin-Marcinkiewicz and both lived in Minsk at the same time.